2018-08-02

That's a pretty good summary of what's been going on recently. Imagine this happening to your country...

That's a pretty good summary of what's been going on recently. Imagine this happening to your country...
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/china-is-trying-to-wipe-taiwan-off-the-map.html

13 comments:

Eric Hansen said...

Well, fuck.

MAYU (Alex) said...

taiwan isn't a country, its like if the south lost the wara nd somehow claimed to still be a country, then tried to start a military force, we wouldn't stand for it trust me :D

Olaf Fichtner said...

MAYU last time I checked Taiwan (or rather the "Republik of China", as the official name goes) had a government, constitution, laws, courts, police, military, currency etc. Why would it not be a country?

Olaf Fichtner said...

Eric Hansen yes, and Trump is not really helpful in this situation...

MAYU (Alex) said...

Olaf Fichtner why would the confederacy not be considered a country? just because you can call it one doesn't justify its existence

Eric Hansen said...

MAYU because they declared their independence, were told "no", and then lost their war asserting their independence anyway.

MAYU (Alex) said...

Eric Hansen both taiwan (roc)and the confederacy were defeated, taiwan has no way to keep its legitimacy as a sovereign state taiwan is the remnant of a failed state

Eric Hansen said...

MAYU when was Taiwan under the control of mainland China again?

MAYU (Alex) said...

Eric Hansen uhm when taiwan ( the roc) threatend the soverignty of mainladn china, dwe're you not aware of the chinese civil war in whcih the Quing dynasty broek down into the failed state the ROC, the ROC quickly lost control of mainland china to the PRC thus lost the war, taiwan is simply a remnant of a failed state

Eric Hansen said...

MAYU which remains soverign.

MAYU (Alex) said...

Eric Hansen shouldnt though it can hardly keep itself that way

Eric Hansen said...

Cool. Glad you see this day long conversation was pointless. Try to avoid it in the future.

Olaf Fichtner said...

MAYU btw, if we want to be exact, we need to notice that there is no country called Taiwan (missiles would fly if that was declared) and none called "mainland China". There is the PRC of which Taiwan has never been a part. Taiwan was part of the Chinese empire, from 1661 to 1895, then it was part of the empire of Japan until 1945 and since then is part of the Republic of China.

"Taiwan" only lost one war in 1895, as it declared independence after the treaty of Shimonoseki was signed. That Republic of Taiwan didn't last long. The KMT lost the fight against the CCP on the continent and retreated to Taiwan, their last remaining larger asset. (There are other, smaller islands.)

You seem to be confusing the ROC with the Confederacy, which are completely different situations. Way closer for a comparison would be Korea, but even that is quite different. Btw, you seem to be confusing a number of wars into one, you might want to refresh your history knowledge.